Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:01 Good morning, Fort McMurray, wood, Buffalo, and the rest of the world. You've tuned into the Mac city morning show. We're going to start the show off the same way we start every show off with a moment of gratitude. I know you could be doing a million other things with your time. So the fact that you spend with us truly does mean the world to me. So thank you on that note, Tanner hit him with the intro.
Speaker 1 00:00:18 She caught me, loves near listen to the next any morning show.
Speaker 0 00:00:27 All right. And we're back. Okay. I'm excited about today's episode. It's going to be a fun one. There's no doubt about that. I'm going to say we're probably going to blow by, by the time we'll try to keep it into the 20 minute mark, but I think that might not happen today. So hopefully you guys enjoy, uh, as you know, I don't introduce my guests because they can do a better job at that than myself. So on that note, sir, can you please tell everybody at home who you are and what you're about,
Speaker 3 00:00:48 And you're going to introduce me like that? Uh, my name is Robert cards. Uh, I own rubbed the card media here in Fort McMurray, and I'm also the founder of oil sands strong. And I'm working on the Fort McMurray 1000 project, which is trying to get a thousand families to move to Fort McMurray. Let's kind of Aetna.
Speaker 0 00:01:03 I'm just going to jump in, cause I have a real question about this, um, thousand people moving to Fort McMurray. So when you're getting these people to move to Fort McMurray, what type of people you're trying to attract from like a job stamp? Is it just like come to Fort McMurray and figure it out? Or is it come to Fort McMurray? There's lots of opportunity. Like how does that, how does that component work?
Speaker 3 00:01:24 She going, gonna find it a little bit of way to equate this. So for instance, um, Nicole Bush was on your show a couple of days ago, sponsored one of the episodes and we actually filmed part of it last night, but the empowerment of women and, uh, stories about how women become successful in Fort McMurray right now, she has so many people that worked for her. I think she has a thousand employees. That's, that's a thousand families. Now, if Nicole can convince, say a hundred, her employees to move to Fort McMurray, instead of living in camp, there's a hundred families right there. So then you reach out to say Suncor or Syncrude and say, look like, can you try find some incentives for 200 families? And then by getting a thousand families that turns into 5,000 people, ish, probably more spin-offs of, of the, all the other things, shopping locally, all the stores. And it just, it's a little way to kind of, I know what populations, but kind of going down, but then coming up a little bit. But yeah, I don't think there's been a real emphasis on why this is a good place to raise a family. And it's never been a better place for you as a family than it is right now.
Speaker 0 00:02:25 So it's a combination then of like trying to get some of the people who are in the shadow population of Fort McMurray to become, full-time also nationally potentially even globally based on like where your videos go out to yeah. To get people to relocate here as well for the first time.
Speaker 3 00:02:42 Yeah. Okay. So one of the things that I, and I I'm trying to do with these videos is I want to make it very attainable. I think one of the mistakes we make here in our region is we continuously overbuild things and make things way too complicated, the need to be right. You would want to come to Fort McMurray, one for a good job, two for a good place to raise their kids so they can, you know, make their lives better hockey, um, community, that kind of thing. You don't need ginormous arenas for that. You need things that activate the community, shopping, that type of thing. So that's sort of what the project is focused on. And I want to really, um, focus on human stories, um, that, that aren't necessarily the who's who like, like reach out to let the latest episode, I'm almost finished filming. I filmed 97 families with their pets. Okay. And gave their pets the store because people like kittens and I spent two hours filming a tortoise. It was, it was, it was riveting, but I mean, there's some cool stuff that comes with that. Okay.
Speaker 0 00:03:41 Yeah. I think that's the way to go about it, man. Just people like Fort McMurray is like any community, like you got a lot of nice, awesome people here. And if you have a good job even better, but like you need that support system of your community and what's around you to like make your
Speaker 3 00:03:59 We're living better. Right. And I think that that's something we've kind of like, we've kind of missed in a lot of we've a lot of people who designed Fort McMurray have never been to Fort McMurray. We literally spend millions upon millions of dollars on outside consultants and designers, even film people come up here and somehow they tell us what our community needs to be. Right. And I don't think that that should happen anymore. Like I argue with the most successful event in Fort McMurray history, I would say as a red Fest. Yeah. You know, thousands of people down at the affordable, attainable,
Speaker 0 00:04:33 Big shout out to Dennis and brand connect.
Speaker 3 00:04:35 Yeah. He's by far the best like that is. And then there's close events too. Like even, even the event that he just did, like, like at Earl's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Yep. When they're designing the Sinai, Mr. Palady, they bring in consultants from Vancouver and there are, they've never been here. Right. Why do we continuously reach outside of our community to tell us how to build a community? Yeah. I think there's a lot of really talented people here that have come here for whatever reason. And I think we need to really, you know, on that. And I think that is if going forward, I'm very excited about the new council. I think for the first time, since I've been here, been here 17 years now, the first time I'm actually seeing a council that I believe one are doing it for the right reasons. Two, aren't blown out with their egos. There's not going to be tons and tons of selfies. And self-promotion, they're actually going to want to do the job. You don't have to like each other all the time. You don't have to agree all the time, but you need people that have are business-minded and community minded simultaneously. So I'm, I'm excited about the future. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:05:34 Going to be good. We've had a number of the, uh, politicians, counselors, counselors. You had the counselors, a few of them on the show. We had all the mayor oral candidates. Yes. It's the first time that I actually saw a race in Fort McMurray for mayor. Like it was very exciting.
Speaker 3 00:05:51 Well, and I, and it, it was a real race, you know what I mean? And, and I want it to come on your show during that because I was helping Sandy obviously, and that wasn't allowed to, because they're scared, I'd shake it up too much. So I agreed to wait till after, because I could speak more freely, but I'm thrilled that Sandy Bowman is our mayor. And when we first talked about him being married, he was actually talking about running for council and I agreed to help him. And, um, I didn't want him to run for mayor at first. Okay. I thought like, oh, this is gonna be a lot of work. You know what I mean? And I don't go into anything unless I give it my all. And I w I didn't know if I was ready to do that. Right. But as I got to know Sandy, like, I've known him for years, but this is when you're working on a project like this, you get to really know someone cause you're in, you're kind of like you're in the trenches together, right?
Speaker 3 00:06:34 Yeah. That's right. And I couldn't think of a better person to be our mayor, um, the discipline. So we, he, uh, he's getting a lot better, but filming Sandy, I, he, he, he talks very salty, Zimmerman guy, MMA guys looking like break your neck in two seconds. Right. They have a such soft demeanor when they speak. Right. And then it wouldn't be loud. And I was like, me, like, we were really good at became flipping people off, but he was just so, and I, so I was kind of getting angry. And when I was, I was because I wanted to ingrain this video and I said to him, I said like, cause he was sending, I'm going to kick your ass. I'm going to like, I'm going to go. Like I was trying to, I come on like MMA and it just looked at me.
Speaker 3 00:07:08 He's like, you couldn't kick my ass. Yeah. Yeah. He's very chill. And that split second, he did that. I realized he's the perfect mayor. Right. Because he will never lose his temper. Yeah. He could, you know, you can take them all on. So the physicality thing there is, is not an issue for him. Right. And he's going to be headed. And everything's so far that I've seen, I've been very impressed, frankly, with all of them, with the exception of one, one really needs to get his head examined. But the rest of them are doing quite well. And I I'm very impressed with that because I truly, and first of all, it's the most, like you have four 80 people on council, you have, you know, you have a Muslim, you have funky, you have, it's probably diverse. The probably the most diverse council we've ever had and it's still business minded. It represents the entire community. It also shows like that the community, um, is open to as long as you have a like funky for instance, right. Like her support was not just Nigeria. It was mostly white people who just, oh yeah, right. That's something that says that, like she like
Speaker 0 00:08:07 One of the number
Speaker 3 00:08:08 One. Yes. She keeps telling everybody that she's number one. I like funky. I think she's going to do well. She's, she's one of the number. Uh, she was number one. Um, and I think that there, for the first time you have a council that I think has some glue that will do things well for us.
Speaker 0 00:08:23 Well, what I like about the council and what I dovetailing it into a question for you, give it to me, is I like that there are some people with some oil and gas experience cause in the past, some councils have not had that voice or that reasoning, which to me, in a community that we live in has been mind blowing that like that component, like, yeah, the only one on our last council was Keith McGrath lake who adds some like connection to oil and gas. So that's why I am very like for the diversity and everything you outlined excellent for some of the more oil and gas voice to be on council, I think is extremely important that we have industry that at the table that can have a conversation. Now you love oil and gas. You'll have a whole activism. T-shirts website, everything about it. Let me hear about oil and gas.
Speaker 3 00:09:12 So, um, I, well, I originally started the, I started the, I level sounds moving to Fort McMurray. That was about six years ago. And then I had my national scandal. So I, I wouldn't, I don't know what your National's got. I've made a post that made international news about lesbians that my lesbian scandal from years ago. Okay. So then that I kind of kind of stopped with high level sentence and I started all sounds strong. I picked up the pieces of my brand and then are my pinnacle moment, I suppose, was when I took Jane Fonda on, in the parking lot of Moxie's in February. It was minus. And that's sort of where I really, I don't know, I had a kind of an awakening. Um, I, I realized that this has to stop and, and I'm happy. There's not been a celebrity visit to Fort McMurray since Jane Fonda.
Speaker 3 00:09:56 Cause Jane Fonda got destroyed. She got destroyed by Rachel Notley. She got destroyed by all the indigenous communities here that didn't want her here. And it was the first time that Fort Mac Marine stopped being a punching bag for these multi-millionaire celebrities. I mean, just think of it, the hypocrisy. Yeah. Leonardo DiCaprio flies and the Gulf stream jet to Fort McMurray to tell us, you know, don't drive SUV's and stop burning oil. That's right. One of the things I think our council candidly has lacked, um, for many years is an actual respect and understanding for what we are so blessed to live in Fort McMurray. Oh yeah. We're, we're lucky to be here. We can have anything we want. And as soon as history in our backyard, the third largest oil reserve in the world has propelled. Uh, got rid of generational poverty, turned indigenous businesses into successful businesses, into millionaires and billionaires.
Speaker 3 00:10:44 Um, anybody can come here even now when the economy is a little bit shaky and have a better life. I think that we, we here have not appreciated. And, and frankly, we've been stupid how we build things. So let's go into Jubilee square. So you have Jubilee square. And the, the city builds Jubilee square, and they had surround 20 anywhere from 15 to $20 million, right? Other artists from wherever they give you this rendition of what to build and you see stages and you see all these amazing things, fast forward, seven years later, McMurry experience and all that. It's back to being a police station. What it originally started as right. You go to Conklin and I love Conklin. I think Conklin is beautiful. Christina lake it's stunning. They have a $50 million rec center, a $3 million football field that never had a football game on it.
Speaker 3 00:11:32 I'm all for them getting the full 50 million in Conklin, but I I'm blown away how we don't build things in this community. It makes sense for future of the community Conklin doesn't have a grocery store. Yeah. And chip, you can't even get a haircut. Yeah. So with the blessing of all of this money, yeah. I think we really need to, as a community, do two things. One build way smaller and build practical, the racetrack instead of spending, you know, $2 million on a weather catcher, which we tear down a few years later. Yeah. Give the racetrack some money so they can buy stands. They had over a thousand people there during the course of a weekend. People want that type of thing, give the arts council that theater downtown and let them do something with that'd be sweet. That would really be sweet. A hundred percent, give the dirt bike, track some money, divvy up this money in this community.
Speaker 3 00:12:24 So everybody has something that works. And the only way we can do that is ourselves. We have to stop bringing in outside consultants. We have to stop. Like, I mean, all of the money that has been blown from like outside consultants and videographers and website developers and all that, what do we have to really show for it? Years later? Yeah. There needs to be a new opening in this community where we help our own. We promote our own people and we grow our own. And if there's certain talents that we don't have, that we got to farm out, you firm up the talent, bring it in, but you don't bring the entire agency in. Right. So that's sort of a, to my point, back to oil and gas, um, we need a council that understands, so two things need to happen. We need to understand where the smallest international city in the world and treat ourselves like a small town, but also understand that we are the most watched the most vilified on the planet, all the carbon talk for global warming and climate change and all that.
Speaker 3 00:13:21 We are the prior unjustly, but they make us the prior for instance, David Suzuki two days ago, or sorry, yesterday makes this big statement about, he wants to blow up the pipelines now. I mean, it's, anyone else says that if anyone says anything like that, you know, they're a terrorist, they get attacked, they get canceled. So I think that comms of our community, we need to one build our own community, understand we're a small town, but understand also that the international community is always watching us. Right? And we need to be cognizant that and the city themselves need to defend oil and gas. You can't just reap the benefits of it and have all these hundred million dollar facilities and not understand that oil paid for that. That's right. So that's kind of a, do you want me to put on my bus tour that I kind of segue there a little bit
Speaker 0 00:14:07 Before we get into that, I've got a few listen. That's why I think we're going to go over. But before we get into our conversation, Tanner has a segment called the CD minute. Hi Tanner, can I ask you some questions? I don't know what he's going to ask you. I wish you nothing but the best of luck Canada
Speaker 3 00:14:20 Hidden with Dymaxium minutes.
Speaker 4 00:14:22 Question number one. What is one reason you're so passionate about Fort McMurray?
Speaker 3 00:14:29 The main reason I come to the club, the main reason I'm passionate about Fort McMurray is I think it is the best place I've ever lived. There's conflict in that. I think anyone who lives here has that conflict sometimes because it's not the easiest place to live. Correct. But if you actually want to make a difference here, opportunities are for anyone. You can do whatever you want. Doesn't matter what field, anything, and the people in this community once you're warmed into it. And you're part of the tribe in a sense, it's the most welcoming community. We're also very blessed to be here. We're the luckiest. We're the luckiest, Mr. Pality in city, in north America. Yeah. And I think that that's a blessing. And I also don't like the way that I think has been very unfair the way we've allowed the, the media, the fake celebrity, um, activist, environmentalist, paint, a picture of our community.
Speaker 4 00:15:20 Question number two. What is your favorite part of getting to work with so many different local companies?
Speaker 3 00:15:27 Um, Hmm, that's a good one. I, well, I love my, I love my job. There's not a, the only time that I don't enjoy my job or what I do is when, um, when I burn out, um, my favorite part is helping. I don't know, like last night I, you know, I was with Nicole Boucher and she, I watched the Holly forte made that video about, um, residential schools. And that's the first time I've seen it before. It was first time I really watched it. Right. And, uh, the talent that came one per producing that. And the story of, I mean, the story, how, like how the resilience of how, you know, um, children were ripped apart of their families. And literally like, I didn't, I didn't even realize how serious it was until I watched the full thing last night and then boom, they've recovered.
Speaker 3 00:16:15 And now you have a multi-generational success and we're not just talking small success, like, you know, internationally known filmmaker, um, a powerhouse of a daughter. Who's a lawyer. And the, I guess the matriarch, the grandmother, the mother of all of them, who's completely turned a negative and change the lives of thousands of people. So I'm every, nothing's the same one minute I'm filming egg rolls in a Chinese restaurant and trying to get a good shot. And the next day I'm sitting with a billionaire talking to him about his life and trying to market their products. So it's, it's a very exciting life.
Speaker 4 00:16:52 Number three. What do you think is one challenge you might have with your come and eat? Uh, what is, sorry? What do you think is one challenge you have with your company that might surprise people
Speaker 3 00:17:06 Challenge with my company that might surprise people? Um, I think people think like, so last, last month we edited over probably like over 400 videos. I think people think we're a lot bigger than we are. You know, I have five staff and, uh, I think that, that some, that's a challenge sometimes. Like we, we, I, one of my biggest problems is I don't, I take on, I don't always, I just take on whatever I can. I don't ever really assess what I need to take on a project. I just take it on and it usually works out. But, uh, um, that's a challenge. And, and honestly though, I don't, I don't think of any, our biggest challenge in Mick Murray. I'll be blunt is outside agencies from Calgary and Edmonton coming in here and trying to take our, and convincing the people that they're are somehow better when they're not necessarily better. Right. That's the
Speaker 0 00:17:54 Big challenge. There you go.
Speaker 4 00:17:55 Question number four. What do you think is the most underrated amenity in Fort McMurray?
Speaker 3 00:18:04 The most underrated amenity in Fort McMurray is the, the, the amount of people who live here and drive three hours south to go to the lake that go miles and miles away. We are surrounded by the most untouched, boreal, forest and beauty between all of the lakes and Gregor lake and even Mariana lake and six lakes. Um, I don't think we truly appreciate the beauty around us and I blame industry for that a little bit, because people are just so caught up in work on their day. Like, your work is intense here. Like you're in your job. It doesn't matter what field it is a hundred percent. So on your days off, you don't really look around. You're like, God, I gotta get outta here. Right. And I think if we took more of a time educating ourselves on the beauty, like I never understood that how great the racetrack was till this year. Like little things like that. Or like, I mean, you got, you got Clearwater and then you've got the mouth of the Athabaska where they touch it. And I sat there on the boat for like an hour and I'm like, this is just stunning. Nevermind six lakes. Yeah. So, yeah, so that the trail system, and then, and just even Mac island and stuff like that, we're very blessed.
Speaker 4 00:19:12 And your final question, what do you think is one thing about for McMurry that would be a draw for any kind of person?
Speaker 3 00:19:21 Hmm. For anyone period? Honestly, I think if we step up a little bit and make our nightlife a little bit more exciting, um, get a few more local shops and stuff. I think Fort McMurry could be like a, like a version of Banff or Canmore. I truly believe that I think six lakes in that area rivals that the beauty that like, that's, that's beauty, that's unique to us that you can't see anywhere else. So I think that we, all we need to do is just a little better job of making it better to be here. You know, if everyone like the nightlife a little bit better, have a few more little things. And then I think that that, that could help a little bit make it exciting. But, um, and I think the other thing too, like we need to work on is just small things. Like things, things that people, we don't need, giant arenas, we need little things.
Speaker 4 00:20:08 Right. And those have been your five questions.
Speaker 0 00:20:12 Thank you. So you got something kinda, you made a pretty sick purchase lately and you have like a little adventure you're going on. Maybe not little because the purchase wasn't little, you bought like the coolest black bus, like it's awesome. I saw a picture of it. I haven't seen the interior, but like the exterior looks amazing. Why did you buy a bus? What are you playing?
Speaker 3 00:20:33 Okay. So this is a very, this is a deep question. So Pierre polio, the politician from the conservative party wore the oil sound, strong hoodie in Ottawa, and it has a fist on it. Right. Okay. And the culture liberal association somehow deemed our group white supremacy, which was actually kind of comical because I was actually filming a multicultural video with a bunch of black people in my shirts that very day. Yeah. So, um, I kind of parked it because COVID was happening and I didn't really know what to do with it. They ended up taking it down and they didn't really apologize, but it's, I wanted to look at the deeper contents of that. So when I realized that Ottawa is a recession proof community, they sit high and mighty. So let's put this in perspective of how lucky you are. If you live in Ottawa, if the country is broke, they borrow money.
Speaker 3 00:21:21 If the country's great, they get the tax revenue. All the jobs in Ottawa are pretty safe. There's always going to be a government. There's always going to be an opposition. And, and, and, um, and the governor general and the Supreme court. And I thought how up to speed and ignorant and, um, out of touch, they were to call oil sound strong. And myself gave me a T business guy from Fort McMurray in the forest lane from a supremacist in any form, but paint our entire community with that brush. Right? So this is where logic doesn't make an it. So I thought, well, I'll just get a giant bus that runs on gas and propane and I'll drive it there. Right. And it's nineteen seventy seven, seventy years born 1977 bus. It's actually quite cool. It's got a bedroom and a cool showers, little seventies, kind of eighties vibe.
Speaker 3 00:22:07 So it's not quite, it's not quite funky. There's a little bit of P I don't really like the seventies was a good year for architecture. The sixties was a good year for architecture. Eighties was an amazing year for life, but they ruined architecture, the drop ceilings, the weird, like just, it sucked for design. Okay. So it's a little bit of seventies, but it's got some of that eighties peach, but I'm going to try to take that out of there. Um, but I'm going to take the bus and I'm going to film a documentary along the way, and I'm going to connect the dots for them because they're very, they're clueless. They don't understand how Fort MacMurray the money here, the security here benefits them. Right. And that's sort of my way of saying, you cannot like you're sitting comfortable in a, in a perfect recession-proof life.
Speaker 3 00:22:50 COVID didn't affect those people. They go home and they, but COVID effected my little business. I, I don't have the luxury of just, you know, working for a government agency and just not having to hustle all the time. And I think that, that, I think that that is a biggest problem in this country and in our region too, we were, so we're the second largest country land mass in the world. And we're so spread out from different places that people, they make decisions and statements that affect us. And they never even been here. I allowed a guy the other day, he's writing, uh, his PhD. And, uh, he's kind of, he's not on our side, but I allowed, I allowed him to interview me because I really wanted to understand. And he's writing this big thing about Fort MacMurray and the big convoys and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 00:23:32 And, um, he's never been to Fort McMurray. Yeah. The amount of people that have not been here that make decisions about us and tell our story. It's insane. And it's on a global scale. Like it happened like with that lesbian post, like a lady in England did her doctorate on me as well. I've never even met her about my post and my motivation behind it and what I was thinking, but never reached out to me. Right. So the idea with this bus term, as I'm going to go town by town, I'm going to, I'm going to drive all the way down to Calgary Leftbridge and I'll stop along the way, do interviews, and then slowly make my way through Manitoba then guitar or sorry, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. And then Ontario and up in Ottawa, I'm going to go to the writing. I'm going to have a mini rally there.
Speaker 3 00:24:11 And then I thought I just stopped there. Maybe just leave the bus and just make like the can put it in a museum or something. But then I kind of thought I'm actually serious. I'll find a way to do it. I know you're serious. I'm listening. So then, um, but then I thought, why not just take the bus all the way to St. John's new Brunswick, where the plant is and where that's ultimately where the energy east pipeline should be. Right. So that's the idea and I'm going to, and I'm going to tell the story along there. Um, uh, Danielle Smith is going to meet me and I'm going to interview people. And, uh, I think even, I think Brian, Jean might jump on the last leg of the trip, but, um, oil stands strong and myself personally, I've always been, tried to be as nonpartisan as possible.
Speaker 3 00:24:51 Um, but I think like we're, we're, we're headed for a weird time. And if we were comfortable in Macquarie, we always are. It's nice to be comfortable. It's nice not to have conflict. It's nice just to have the status quo and just say whatever. But the truth of the matter is there's this big movement to shut us down. And it's, it's, it's just festering in this becoming bigger and bigger. And there is no such thing as green energy. So let's just talk about this batteries require mining energy to produce. So with all these notions that were somewhere, everything's going to be electric, the amount of damage that those tailings ponds from are going to cause from those where earth minerals or lithium ion batteries and all that far worse than what we're doing here. And they don't have reclamation. So I want to, before the world does, before this world does this massive just transition and shits on Fort McMurray and our energy.
Speaker 3 00:25:42 I think we really kind of point out the good look at the reclamation. They basically pretty soon tailings ponds are going to be gone. You tell me a place that does more for the environment than Fort McMurray. That's right. You know, so the idea of this bus tour is to take it there. Um, and, and it's different and it'll, it'll draw some attention along the way. And, um, I want to document the entire trip and then interview people in small places and hear their stories. I also think that there's this, we really need to sh to level the playing field about people who think they're more important than they are. There's a lot that happens here, too. You got a lot of people get these jobs and every person is the same. Every job matters. And we all part of the same pitcher. And I really concerned with this notion that somehow that like I was talking to me said, well, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 00:26:28 We're going to give you all these green jobs and what green jobs I'm like, have you ever worked in your life? Have you ever like driven anywhere? Have you ever been in a situation will know because you know, like their, their life circumstances are different. Yeah. So I don't believe anyone should be able to make a choice for the people here, but the people here. And I think too, the biggest thing is like this war on energy has to stop this war between solar and wind windmills kill more built birds and tailings ponds. That's fact when Syncrude had those desks and like, I mean, it was with the birds and they landed in the tailings pond. I mean, I don't like how they handle it. I think they were ridiculous how they handled that. They, they, they went like, oh my God, we're so sorry.
Speaker 3 00:27:11 Windmills kill hundreds of thousands. More birds. It's proven same with solar panels than telling us apart. So here's my point. All energy has an impact. More birds die on a duck hunting weekend, but no one wanted to say that. But w what sinker did right by employing over 5,000 employees, providing those people with good jobs, paying for those children, the kids of those workers to go to school, all of the benefits, economic benefits from that far outweigh when they accidentally had a bad storm and the, and the, and the Canon's failed, and the deterrence of the tailings plans failed. But when windmills kill birds, no one says anything. When birds fly over solar panels in Nevada and fry up alive and die, they don't say anything. So this notion that there's somehow some kind of green energy that doesn't exist. And I think we need to understand that all energy is important and all technology needs to evolve at the same time.
Speaker 0 00:28:02 Nailed it. Awesome, man. Now, listen, I had tons more questions. I want to know where you're from. I want to know why you came. I know you have club promoting background. We were talking about race before, but we've totally blown by the 20 minutes. So you got to come back again. Okay. Well, thanks. So I want to thank you first off for coming. Cause it's been a long time coming. We've worked it out. So thank you for making the time. I'm very excited about what you're doing. I do really like what you do. Thank you. So thanks for your passion and thanks for coming
Speaker 3 00:28:31 On the show, man. I
Speaker 0 00:28:32 Appreciate it. Thank you for so now, before I cut you loose, though, everybody gets a shameless shout out or plug before they leave. So the cameras are on you. The lights are on you.
Speaker 3 00:28:39 If I get my, I get my shameless plug right now. Okay. It's real simple. I need to sell a ton of shirts to pay for this bus tours. So go to 4g motor sports or the urban market or McMurry TV, and you can buy shirts.
Speaker 0 00:28:50 Here we go. Awesome. Well, Fort McMurray, wood, Buffalo, the rest of the world. That's been another episode of the Mac city morning show. Thank you so much for tuning in. It really does mean the world to me. I hope you're having a great day and we'll see you tomorrow. Peace.
Speaker 5 00:29:04 I just dies that desk. That's another Mac city morning show Dawn.
Speaker 6 00:29:20 Yeah. Talk about quenching your ugly thirst.
